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Isn't it cheaper to build a wall than to hire more border patrol?
Of course it is cheaper to build a wall than to constantly have to train more Border Patrol agents. Human employees have to take time off each day to eat and rest. Therefore there must be additional agents to cover for them. Also, BP agents costs go up with amount of time they have served as BP agent. The cost of a wall decreases with time if properly designed. installed and maintained. There are three 8 hour shifts in a day. Employees need time off for sick leave, vacation or family medical leave. Border Patrol agents must testify in court also. When they arrest those who enter illegally, then they must be taken to a secure area for processing away from the Border. . The agents can’t be two places at once. Someone has to cover for them! ! A functional, working barrier at the border reduces the number of BP agents necessary. The cost to build and maintain a wall doesn’t even come close to the cost of hiring enough agents to take the place of the wall. The cost of the wall after it is built is minimal compared to what it would cost to have enough BP agents to cover the same territory the wall protects! Border Patrol agents eventually retire or quit AND therfore have to be replaced with trained personnel. Personnel are always the highest cost of any organization! Why do you think factories have robots? Super markets have automated check out stations??? BECAUSE HUMAN LABOR IS EXPENSIVE!!!!The talking heads with a political agenda kept talking about electronic surveilance and other deterrents. Have you ever heard of a drone arresting an invading illegal immigrant?? Drone technology is NOT that new (google it). The BP has been using them for decades. Electronic sensors for detecting underground tunnels is based on old technology (seismic detectors).When it comes to the opinion of talking heads with a political agenda or the BP agents with boots on the ground guess which one is going to have the most accurate opinion??? There are those idiots who keep talking about Trump’s wall. Guess what? BP agents have been complaining about the porosity of the wall, terrorists, drug dealers, sex trafficers and gangs pouring in for decades LONG BEFORE Trump even thought about becoming president.
The US Border Patrol is finding it nearly impossible to hire honest capable agents to work the southern border. What is being done to solve this problem?
Well the Trump administration hired a recruiting firm to address this so far they have referred 2 people who passed the selection process and charges 13.6 Million for this.The Trump administration paid a private company $13.6 million to recruit thousands of Border Patrol agents, and they've hired 2 so farCurrently the BP’s biggest issue to attract qualified recruits is that it has been turned into a political symbol by the current administration and that the officers no longer have discretion in their duties and must follow administrative directives that conflict with the Humanitarian part of the BPs mission.BP is looking for educated fit intelligent people to be agents, they prefer a college degree and you have to pass several tests and interviews that look for not only the temperament needed by also logic and critical thinking skills.Now to some the obvious “solution” is to lower the Standards, well they did that in the 80s and the results were disastrous and a stain on the agency, they ae not willing to do that again
Does filling out these forms mean that I am hired?
You have met the basic federal requirements to become an employee, but until they actually have you do some work, you are not counted as an employee.
How does the U.S. Border Patrol pick and choose who to stop at the checkpoint?
I was picked up by border security agency so here what I think…RandomPurposefullyIt's kinda tricky as they don't pick up people randomly to check but it's basically the background for the people whom they target purposely. It can be easily excused under “we search people randomly” all the time.Random selection is still not random. They must be looking atFirst timersImmigration purpose crossingsDressing in a way that catches the eyeBeing beautiful/handsomeBeing a jerk right off the bat.Now, every country has specific countries in its black list whom they check more strictly compare to other people.Now, it doesn't matter who you are, your selection will be based on the sole discretion of the officer. Anything can tick in his mind as “bit off” so they pick people up …What ticks an officer’s mind..Why are you scanning your surrounding constantly?Why are you changing your way upon officer being on your way?Why are you keep looking at your luggage?Why do you have so few or so much stuff with you?Why do you look like a junkie?Why are you taking too much time to put your bag on the scanner?Why you keep looking for something in your pockets?Why are you so attentively listening to the questions being asked to the person before you?Why are you on your phone constantly even after a long flight?Why did you hesitated when an officer asked you a simple question?Why are you giving long answers or explanation for everything?Why are you over friendly with the officers but don't talk shit to fellow passengers?Why are you so tensed?Why are you so relax?The most important question isWhy I shouldn't stop you?It's not about qualifying for reasons to stop you but qualifying for the reasons not to stop you.
How does the arrest of US Supervisory Border Patrol agent Juan David Ortiz for murder of four woman speak to the character of those hired to do Border Protection?
Border Patrol officers (and all police officers) have to be recruited and hired from the human race. Even with extreme vetting procedures, occasionally a bad human being will slip through and get hired. The same is true (and in some professions to a much larger degree) for firefighters, teachers, doctors, clergy, lawyers, etc. Ortiz turned out to be an exceptionally bad human being. With over 800,000 police officers in the USA (no matter how stringent the hiring process) it is inevitable that something like this would eventually happen.How does it speak to the character of Border Patrol agents or all police officers for that matter? It doesn't. Not at all. That is because it is rare. Not 1 in a 100 rare but getting struck by lightning rare. It no more reflects on the character of Border Patrol agents than if Ortiz had been a teacher that it would have reflected on the character of all teachers.So, until the day we replace all police officers with robots (and that would bring its own set of problems), all we can do is continue to have the most stringent hiring and vetting processes we can have consistent with hiring the number of officers needed for the job.
Why not create or enhance an "electronic wall "to notify border patrol about incursions across the border and direct troops to turn back ilegals?
This is easier said than done.The CBP has repurposed a number of military technologies for surveilling the border. They even have their own fleet of drones, although that may not be an especially cost-effective option.They have tried several times, with various approaches, to establish a form of “electronic fence” at the border. There are numerous problems associated with this.The geography and climate are inhospitable. It’s mostly dry desert, with some mountainous terrain. There’s no access to electrical power, and the sites are too remote to be served by a generator.The installations are remote, but often passed by illegal immigrants or their coyote guides. These people have both motive and opportunity to vandalize the equipment. A few bullets fired from a rifle, or even a well-thrown rock, can disable your expensive gear. It might be a while before a tech can get in to repair it. If and when he does, it won’t be long before it’s wrecked again.The remote nature of the sensors often requires the network to be interlinked, mesh-style. If one sensor goes down, it can take all those in the area down with it.Even when a sensor network is working at top efficiency and the operator can tell exactly when and where someone is crossing illegally, the information is not worth much if you can’t get Border Patrol agents in place to stop and apprehend the suspects. It does no good to sin one or two agents if you have six or a dozen illegals. You need enough agents that can effectively contain the suspects, overcome any resistance, render medical aid if needed (and it’s often needed), and a vehicle that can transport them to a holding facility. Getting all those things to where they are needed can be tough. Even if you know a pack of illegals are crossing at Point A right now, it will take some time to get agents in place who are 20–50 miles away at the time of the sighting. Meanwhile, a similar group may be crossing at another point five or ten miles away, knowing that the CBP can get, at best, only half of them.The CBP has about 23,000 patrol agents deployed on the U.S.-Mexican border, which is 1,989 miles long. Let’s assume that 20% of them are on duty at any one time (that is a generous estimate). That’s 2.3 agents per mile, and only while none of them are tied up on an arrest, or a transport, or in court, or doing any of the other things a patrol agent does at work. If you had 2.3 miles of desolate area to patrol alone, how easy do you think it would be for someone to get past you now and again?
How hard is it to become a border patrol agent?
Right now, very.U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), the Border Patrol’s parent agency, has been the victim of a too-ambitious hiring binge. For the last twenty years, with a big spike after 9/11, the Border Patrol and U.S. Customs Service (the two were merged into CBP in 2022. have been hiring agents and officers at an unprecedented rate. Pressured to get all those new folks on the job, there were some compromises in hiring standards, background investigations, training requirements, and a vacuum of qualified supervisory personnel as the experienced people were pushed into supervisory roles, whether they were ready and suited for those jobs or not.The result is that CBP has become arguably the country’s most corrupt law enforcement agency, with at least one agent arrested per month for over 11 years. The problem is aggravated by low morale, stemming from enforcement and engagement rules that run hot and cold from one week to the next, officers frequently stationed in remote, inhospitable locations, and the large amounts of money available to any agent who agrees to look the other way at designated times and places.One of CBP’s responses has been to make extensive use of the polygraph for screening new applicants, and to fail two out of three applicants on the polygraph. Rather than screening out dishonest candidates, it’s far more likely that the polygraph examiners are being too harsh on false positives for deception.Use of the polygraph is highly controversial. It’s hardly a foolproof device, and the efficacy of a polygraph examination varies directly with the experience and competence of the polygraph examiner. It is no substitute for a thorough background investigation (BI), but it is cheaper and faster than a BI, and the temptation to rely on it too heavily is strong when there is pressure to hire lots of new bodies.There are bunches of far less-troubled law enforcement agencies trying to hire new people right now. If I was looking for a law enforcement job, the Border Patrol would be pretty far down my list of options.
Can't US Border Patrol already use force if needed to defend themselves? Why do we need a Presidential Directive?
This latest directive isn't for the CBP to use deadly force if warranted. It is for the military troops backing them up to use deadly force while backing the CBP if things get out of hand.Before this directive the military was only there in a peaceful, non combatant support role preparing the border and constructing the needed facilities to enforce national policy. Catch and Release is to be avoided when at all possible, that requires facilities to house detainees in. That is part of what the military has been doing.However DHS has also requested that they back-up the CBP if the situation becomes hostile. So more of our support troops may be armed. There are also 400 Military MP’S being sent to the border that will be able to operate in frontline CBP support if needed.According to reports coming out of Tijuana our supposedly peaceful caravan of immigrants aren't all that peaceful. Which was to be expected and the Administration has rightfully anticipated. I'd be stealing food for my babies as well if I were in their predicament. Or for that matter doing whatever was required to take care of my family and myself.People who are going to walk and hitch hiked 1500 plus miles aren't going to be easily deterred when their goal is literally within their sight.These are determined people.
Is the White House order giving the military troops orders to use lethal force along the US/Mexican correct in a legal or moral sense?
The use of lethal force is always available for self-defense, whether armed or not.The President doesn’t need to “authorize” it, it exists by law, regulation, and civil right…Self-defense includes the defense of others, so an armed, or unarmed, soldier at the border who witnesses an attack on anyone, anyone at all, is duty-bound to come to assistance (or perform another action such as get help or act as a witness) of the victim.If an armed soldier witnessed someone shooting or beating another soldier, or a civilian, or a Federal officer or employee, then based on the circumstances, that soldier has to make a decision as to whether lethal force is authorized.Such decisions are built into the rules of engagement provided to soldiers during any deployment such as this, as well as military and civil law and regulations.(EDIT: ROE’S APPLY OUTSIDE THE US, INSIDE THE US THERE ARE ALWAYS STANDING RULES FOR USE OF FORCE [RUF], THAT ARE MODIFIED BY THE COMBATANT COMMANDER [NORTHCOM INSIDE CONUS] AND THE SECDEF AS NECESSARY. SEE: https://fas.org/irp/doddir/dod/d... and http://www.jag.navy.mil/distrib/...)
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